How NYSC certificate nearly destroyed my career – Ogunneye, former president, Nigeria Computer Society

One time President of Nigeria Computer Society and former Managing Director of Data Sciences Nigeria, Alhaji Oladimeji Ogunn...


One time President of Nigeria Computer Society and former Managing Director of Data Sciences Nigeria, Alhaji Oladimeji Ogunneye, tells ‘Nonye Ben-Nwankwo and Tunde Ajaja about his life at 70
You clocked 70 recently. To you, is 70 just a number?
I would say it is just a number. I don’t celebrate birthdays. But one must thank God for attaining three scores and ten especially when my father was 70 when he had me. Getting to be 70 was something I had prayed hard for. So, I would say it was a normal day but also a special day. God was kind enough to let me get to this age and when the children said they wanted to celebrate it for me, I had to agree. One must thank God.
Did you actually say your father was 70 when he had you?
Yes.
Was it that you weren’t planned for?
My mother was his young wife. She was in her late 30s when she had me. I was his last born before he died. My mother had two of us.
How old were you when he died?
I was just five months. So when I was approaching 70, I was so apprehensive. I didn’t want to die as my father died at 70.
Was it difficult for you growing up without a father?
It was kind of difficult. But my mother was blessed. She had the means to take care of us. But raising up a child is much more than money; you would need a father figure as well. But like it was in those days, relatives stood as fathers for us. It was when I got to secondary school that I started to appreciate what my single mother was going through. Once you left secondary school in those days, you were on your own.
So what did you do when you left secondary school?
I got a job in the bank. It was as if my mother was liberated. She had done what she needed to do for me. One thing with mothers even when their children are grown is that they would get an overdose of care when those children were able to make it in life. It was difficult for my mother back then but by the grace of God, she was able to eventually enjoy motherhood when the children she singlehandedly brought up became successful.
Did you quit the bank and went abroad because you just wanted to further your studies?
Yes. But then, I didn’t really have it in mind to travel because the bank was paying me good salary. I was even earning almost double what the government was paying its employees then. But one Good Samaritan approached me one day and asked me what I was doing here. He advised me to go and further my studies. I told him I wasn’t thinking in that direction. The man happened to have access to Russian scholarship. He was the president of Nigerian Russian Cultural Association or something like that. He wanted to offer me scholarship but I even felt if I wanted to travel abroad, it wouldn’t be Russia. I told him I would rather go to the US and not Russia. He agreed. He just said I should go and get admission in any school in the US and he would sponsor me. I eventually got my passport.
So did the man sponsor your education?
I went back to him and told him I had got my passport and admission into a school and he told me he was broke and wouldn’t be able to sponsor me again. But then, he went ahead to borrow money to pay my school fees from the bank I was working, and I used the school fees receipt in applying for visa. I applied and I got the visa and I left for the US.
Did you feel frustrated at first when he told you he didn’t have money again to sponsor you?
No. Then, I was already a head at my department in the bank. If I hadn’t succeeded with the man, I would have gone back to the bank and I wouldn’t have lost anything. In fact, I was apprehensive. It is good to further your studies when you are young and not when you have been working for five years after secondary school; when your mates were almost finishing university was when you were entering.
How did you feel when you set foot abroad?
First of all, we had to find a way to survive since we weren’t in our environment. Some of the jobs most of us did were things we couldn’t have imagined. I was a young banker who was already wearing suits and I got to the US and started doing a labourer’s job in order to survive. The good thing was that it was temporary, especially if you were going to school at that time. But there were times we got emotional especially when we thought of our prestige in Nigeria. Then again, the weather was not kind to people from Africa.
Don’t you think you would have been better off now if you had stayed back in the bank?
You don’t prejudge God’s roadmap for you, you should roll with it. I don’t think I would have been a failure if I had stayed back in the bank because I was doing well. As at that time, the bank was just setting up computerisation department. I was one of the eight people selected to be in that department. I was even heading that eight-man team before my visa came out. If I hadn’t travelled, I would have achieved something in life as well.
But you could have stayed back in the US after your studies, why did you come back?
There was a big temptation to stay back. When you have a good combination of education – Aircraft Electronics Engineering, Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science and having worked in a good company as E.I. Dupont Inc, the company even applied for permanent residence for me and my wife. I actually had no business coming back to Nigeria. But I didn’t forget that single parent mother that did all she could to take care of me. Something was calling me to come home. So after a year and half of getting the green card, I had to come back home.
So how did you end up at Data Sciences when you came back?
I actually came back because I had been interviewed by the Federal Government when I was still in America. The Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation had offered me a job with a very good package and I was very happy. I was given house, car and all the other stuff they give to people they hire from abroad. I was even given the ticket to come back home.
So why didn’t you work at NNPC eventually?
When I got home and I went to the office and I was asked to present my National Youth Service Corps discharge certificate, I didn’t know anything about that; nobody informed me about such. It was crazy. That was the lowest point in my life. I left a fantastic job, a white collar job in the US and nobody told me about anything concerning NYSC discharge certificate. In my confusion, I asked them what I was going to do. They just told me I should go and do my youth service elsewhere and come back after a year.
Why didn’t you do your youth service at NNPC then?
They said if I would do my youth service there, they would treat me as a local hire eventually. Dejectedly, I went back home and I didn’t know what I was going to do with myself. I was passing by Ola Ayinde Street in Ikeja and I saw the signboard of Data Sciences Nigeria Limited. I said to myself that this must be a computer firm. I peeped in and I talked to the receptionist there. I asked for the managing director and I was told he wasn’t on sit and I left. I came about three or four times and the receptionist had to ask me if I had somewhere better to go. She suggested I should wait for the MD. That was when it occurred to me that I could actually wait. From my background in the US, you just don’t wait without an appointment. So since I hadn’t got an appointment and I didn’t have anywhere better to go, I decided to wait for the MD to come back.
So what happened?
The MD, Dan Etiebet, eventually came back and met me and looked at my credentials and said I was the kind of people they were looking for. There and then, he offered me a job.
Didn’t he ask for your NYSC discharge certificate?
Two weeks later, his wife who was the director of administration called me and asked for my NYSC discharge certificate. I told her I didn’t have it. I was given a letter of termination of appointment. They told me that by government regulation, they couldn’t hire me. So I left dejectedly again. But the guy I was staying with then suggested I do my NYSC with Data Sciences. I went back to them and asked them if I could do my NYSC with them and they agreed. At the end of the day, the allowance they gave me was almost close to what NNPC offered me.
Didn’t you think of going back to NNPC after the youth service?
No. I decided to stay back with Data Sciences. After the one year, the salary I negotiated with them was higher than what NNPC offered me. Then, I was even nursing some grievances that they brought me to Nigeria without preparing me for such.
Did you get married before you travelled abroad?
Yes. I got married in 1971. I think I was 25 years then. At 18 back then, you were on your own. I was already living on my own. Once you left secondary school, you were on your own. As far as you have a good job, you could get married.
Did you try putting in place what you learnt overseas in Nigeria when you came back?
When you are in an environment of design and manufacturing – Dupont manufactures medical equipment- you would have access to a lot of equipment and tools you would use for such endeavours. In Nigeria, we are not there yet. Then again, the nature of the job here in Nigeria is to use already put-together equipment. Over there, you are meant to use your own tools and gadgets to put a computer together. But here, you use a computer that is already put together as a complete unit. You won’t have the time to do something like that on the side because you are already loyal to your employers. The environment here didn’t push one to such ventures
So are you saying the environment here kind of limited your expertise?
No, I will not say that. Education is very interesting. Educating yourself in anything at all becomes useful to you wherever you are. Your knowledge in whatever you have learnt can become handy any day. Your education enhances your disposition to any situation you find yourself.
You have a degree in Aircraft Electronics, was there a temptation to be a pilot?
You are very correct. I left Nigeria to be a pilot. I thought the school I attended, Academy of Aeronautics (now New York State University) was a flying school. It was when I got there that I found out that it was an engineering school. I discovered that if I wanted to be a pilot, I would have to go to a flying school and do hours of learning.
So why didn’t you pursue your pilot dream?
Some people came to talk to us while I was in school about our careers. We were told electronic engineers were needed in medical schools and there was a need for medical electronics. I got interested. I decided to go ahead and do Biomedical Engineering.
Now don’t you wish you had pursued that dream especially when you see aircraft captains?
I am thankful I didn’t pursue that dream. I am just happy. When you are young, you don’t think deeply about things. As I grew up, I began to think deeply and I had a change of mind. So I would carry my bag in the morning and tell my family I was going to work and the place I would find myself in would be the air? No. I am not sure if I wouldn’t have been scared along the way. It is good to yield yourself the way God wants you to be.
You were once the president Nigeria Computer Society, would you say you left any landmark during your tenure?
I hope so. I joined when it was Computer Association of Nigeria in the 80s. In 1989, I ran for election as an ex- officio member. I later became the treasurer for two terms of two years respectively. I eventually became the second vice president and then I became the president for two tenures. I became provost for the College of Fellows. College of Fellows is like SAN of the law profession. I also became chairman of College of Fellows for two terms. I have worked with colleagues who are dedicated and who also served before me. I think we made the society a voice to reckon with in the IT industry.
Where do you see IT in the nearest future; are you among the people who feel everything would become computerised in the nearest future?
I must confess that it is getting scarier. Whether we like it or not, IT will eventually control everything we do. If you are a positive person that would say the glass is half full against saying the glass is half empty, you would say this is a good thing. Many things are happening today with IT tools   even in Nigeria. Our banking sector has grown a long way in achieving near perfect performance. You can transact businesses from your phone these days. That is very good. We have not seen anything yet; IT will control lives more and more. It will get to a point when we will not be able to do anything else outside these simple gadgets. From where I am sitting, I would be able to do things in my house; I could turn on the heater, turn on the stove and do other things. From here, I could start my car outside. Some countries are even talking about driverless vehicles. We should be positive about this and roll with it.
With the much you have achieved in life, didn’t you consider politics at all?
No. I have two reasons. First of all, I cannot afford not to sleep at night. I must have my sleep every night. Then again, lying doesn’t come to me easily. I can’t stab friends in the back. When you are very straight-forward, you may not be able to play politics the way they do it in Nigeria and even all over the world. You will be able to call black any other colour but black because you want to achieve something at that time. If you don’t do all this, you will not make a good politician. But one can serve without being a politician.
Now that you are 70, do we see you getting married again like your father?
I am not against polygamy but I cannot do it. I don’t have the means. If you are going to be blessed with anything, it is good you get it early. When you get it late, it will be difficult to manage. It is not when your colleagues are coming back from the farm that you take your knife and say you are going to the farm. If you are lucky to have a woman that has stayed with you for over 40 years, then you don’t have to cause trouble for yourself by looking for another wife. By the way, my father didn’t get married again at 70; he just had me at 70.
So, how did you meet your wife?
She was working at an office opposite mine at Broad Street, Lagos. We used to close from work about the same time. We started talking once in a while for a period of time. One thing led to another and we started going out without saying anything. Then I eventually proposed.
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